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People often go to extreme lengths to prove a point they are trying to make to call attention to an issue. This can span a range of forms, from non-violent protests, ad campaigns, demonstrations, lawsuits, and boycotts to terrorism. But the message that these protests take can be as imprtant as the issue they are intended to call attention to.
- What message are the vegans in this article sending by using the tactics they are choosing?
- Does the fact that some people may view strip clubs/nudity negatively outweigh the message these vegans are trying to communicate?
- What impact does their message have on you personally-- was it effective in bringing these issues to your attention in a way that made you think about their message?
- Pick out one quote that was significant to you. Explain it and why it was significant.
- What biases did you have, for or against the subject, while reading this text? When did you become aware of it and did it hinder your evaluating the text in an objective way?
- What ideas were you unfamiliar with from the text and how did you approach that information?
- Pose one question you have about the text.
- Attempt to answer someone else's question.
- Respond to another student's ideas-- agree, disagree, or add to what they have written in some way. Do not merely restate or parrot their statement. As always, be respectful and academic.
1.The vegans are simply worried about cruelty to animals . Trying to Send the message every animal and creature shouldn't go through pain and suffering,so there for be a vegetarian.
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ReplyDelete1.The vegans are worried about animal cruelty and want to try to get more people vegetarian. They are using strip clubs as a method to get more men into eating vegetables. If a simple ad doesn't get them to change their eating habits than they have decided to use what most men like in order to introduce them into their vegetarian eating style. Vegans are trying and will use any method possible in order for more people to become vegetarians.
ReplyDelete1.)The message that the vegans are trying to send with their tactics is to prevent animal cruelty.
ReplyDelete2.)Some people might dissagree with the fact that clubs/nudity is used to get a cruelty animal message across but there are people who actually pay attention to the matter.
3.)It had a possitive impact on me, although the way that he is promoting that animal cruelty should not be allowed it still catches the attention of people. If it makes people realize whats going on with the animals at least a little bit why not do what you think it’s right, I personally think it’s a right choice.
4.)“This isn’t the first time animal rights activists have been accused of sexism.”, was the quote that really caught my eye, for the reason being that I find it ridiculous that there is people that see it that way. Instead of concentrating on the fact that animals should not be mistreated.
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ReplyDelete3.personally the message didn't change my perspective . I don't think is wrong to eat meat in any way.I don't think is wrong either for people to be vegetarians. I just think you should be able to enjoy food. therefor by eating anything you find delicous. And not worry about anything.If you find meat to be discusting than thats your choice.Eat what makes you happy,for whatever reasons you might have
ReplyDelete1.The message the vegans are sending is quite simple. They are sending the message that animal cruelty is wrong and should considered wrong by everyone. Also that people should try and convert into a vegetarian because, eating animals is also very wrong. They are also stating that society should live by the vegan lifestyle. They are using sex as a persuading instrument on society, because it appeals to the viewer.
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ReplyDelete.1 1. Vegans in this article are trying to send a clear message that they are strong believers of animal rights. They involve other controversial issues, like a strip club, to attract attention not fully helping support their beliefs. There are other ways to go about standing up for what you believe you just have to explore then more careful so that you can clearly get your point across.
ReplyDelete1.The message that the vegans are sending by using the tactics is to save the animal welfare groups. It’s a helpful way for the people to be aware of how some animal ive in a cruelity world. It is also for the audience to see the animal’s life and how some are being mistreated. Veganism help out the animals and a way to receive people’s attention is by woman advertising.
ReplyDelete2.I don’t believe the fact that a strip club was used to express veganism should outweigh the message vegans are trying to send. I believe that a strip club, though not a very highly reputable place in society, can still send very strong messages. I also believe that it doesn’t matter how the message is sent, as long as it can get the viewers. This can be by a strip club or a newspaper or saving an animal’s life, long story short the message is being sent.
ReplyDelete1. What message are the vegans in this article sending by using the tactics they are choosing?
ReplyDeleteI realy do not know. They may be cathing attention but they arent helping to change the way people think. There is only one message they might be sending out by acting like this and that is that vegetarians are crazy. Im not saying they are but its seems like that is what they are trying to infer.
3.This passage doesn’t have a big impact on me personally. Regardless of what this passage says, I am still going to eat whatever I enjoy, whether it is a burger or a carrot. I did gain a better understanding of what is being done to get the word across. I now see the extremes of advertising, and the effects of such an action.
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ReplyDelete4.Most men have never even tried vegetarian food, Mr. Diablo of Portland said. “It’s as if it’s going to threaten their manhood.” This means that most men are raised and brought up to believe that meat is empowering. They also grow to believe that vegetables are for the weak. They think that the more meat you eat the better and stronger you will become when your older, so its implanted into them to not want to be a vegetarian, because they don’t want to be weak. That is significant because everyone wants to win, and how can you be the victor if you’re not strong enough.
ReplyDelete2. What impact does their message have on you personally-- was it effective in bringing these issues to your attention in a way that made you think about their message?
ReplyDeleteNo I realy don’t care regardless what they do I like meat it does not say no where in my Bible that I cant eat meat cruelty to animals, that’s a different situation, What else are animals here for so we can look at them? No so we can eat them when we are hungry we arent cows to be eating vegitarian food.
5.I believe that people should give being a vegan a chance. Everyone looks down upon being one, but never tries to see how it feels to be one. For all they know they could probably feel better. I became aware of this when the text said that there were only about 2 percent of vegans in the country, which means not too many people are trying to join the club. I believe that you shouldn’t douse it till you try it.
ReplyDelete3. Pick out one quote that was significant to you. Explain it and why it was significant.
ReplyDelete“People adopt to diet free of animal products for a vriety of reasons. They may believe it is healtheir or more eviromental friendly. They may support animal rights.” Who cares. Enviormental friendly what are we going to live with animals on the street now too. I Know for a fact although some speices are in danger we should help those, but for others eat away, Animal rights?Maybe they do not get the fact that we should be busy with other problems in the world then to be caring all our lives about what we eat. We arent going to have a big cake walk with animals.
6.I was unfamiliar with why Mr. Diablo would even try to support veganism in a strip club. To me that’s very humorous because the two really don’t mix that well. If you’re going to the strip club the last thing probably on your mind is what type of vegetables you are going to have while you’re there. I approached this positively because the club was in a very vegan heavy town. Regardless you shouldn’t mix sex with vegetables. The viewer’s minds will not be on the food.
ReplyDelete1- I think vegans are using these tactics to call the attention of people but more men’s attention. They are trying to stop animal cruelty by using those tactics. When they used those tactics more people turn vegan so they keep using it because is a way to stop animal cruelty without hurting anybody. They also said it is healthier to be a vegan. I think they will keep using these tactics no matter what people think about them.
ReplyDelete2. In my opinion I think it does in a certain way. Many men might just attend the strip club to see the women and not because of the food they serve. I mean yes they would eat the soy beans and all the food they offer for that moment but that doesn't mean that they will become vegans. They wont have the girl with them 24/7 telling them what to eat and what not to eat. For some reason the two clubs Mr. Diablo has opened have been closed.
ReplyDelete2.Everybody may think different but not necessarily it could negatively outweigh the message these vegans are trying to communicate. They are different opinions and different kind of people. Ones may think is positive and others negative. I think it does not affect the message because people do what they feel they should do. Is like the clothes that you wear ones may think is good and others not.
ReplyDelete7.I always thought that the PETA were very nice and peaceful people who used positive and righteous methods of getting their point across. Why would they use something as vulgar as sex to express something as honorable as saving an animal’s life?
ReplyDelete3.Personally I am not a vegetarian but I don’t eat meat like others people may eat. I eat once a while because I don’t really like it. The message that is article is sending is a good one because it is trying to prevent animals from pain and suffering.
ReplyDelete5.)I am totally for this subject, I probably shouldn’t be, being a girl and all but I put that pass me if it’s something that could be useful for animals. “Certain activists, he added, care only about ‘animal suffering and ignore the suffering of humans,’ a category into which he would put women who are exploited.” The reason why that made me be totally on the side of Johnny Diablo is because I find that it is a lie, humans are always getting help, everybody wants to help in different ways, some want to help animals and some want to help humans.
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ReplyDelete2.some people for that reason are taking the message and seeing it as a type of media suggesting women should be thin.Or that meat eaters are pigs that should be held in cages.Because of the stripped pictures. This outweighs the message their trying to send because now they have to in some way change the perspective of how people view this by perhaps using different strategies then stripped photographs of men and pregnant woman in cages.Some people get affended by such things
ReplyDelete1) The message sent here to the public and those readers is to prevent people from using their Influences to get the greatest stuff they can choice from. The vegans are trying to prevent people from daily life using animal cloth and boots and food and even accessories. So they are doing any means possible to prevent it and are using methods of somewhat extravagant in some cases to tell people what they think. So they are fighting for the rights for animals with no words just skin or meat that people use. They are being good in replacing some items of their menu and clothes but the people receive the message. Also that they have the right of freedom of expression.
ReplyDelete2. Yes, some people does view it as a strip club/nudity negatively outweigh. Those who view it as a negatively outweig only judge what it is shown rather than anaylzing the advertisment. The viewr also forgets that women who expose themselves for the cause agreee to go with their own will. People have to be more open minded in how they view the display and see that is for a great cause and not just exposing woman.
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ReplyDelete3.It didn't change my way of thinking in any way. I like meat and I like vegetables I also respect everyones ideas. If you are happy eating only vegetables than good for you if you need both to enjoy your food go head. I think we have to eat what we like and not let anyone or anything like strip clubs try to change what we like. Ofcourse in te other hand if it's because of your health thatyou have to make some slight changes in your eating habits ok we have too but not drastically to the point of not eating meat at all when you like it.
ReplyDelete9.I agree with what Alejandro L. says about us eating animals. Most people believe in the bible very much. I have not exactly read it all but I don’t recall there being a fact about not eating animals. They do have a purpose in the world and perhaps it is to be eaten. I don’t mind that because I eat animals all the time.
ReplyDelete2) Well in some way no cause they practically have one side that is no clothes and half clothes on so I guess it’s a pretty hard argument to choose a side but I would say that that if all strip clubs choose to follow the clean standards and use recycling clothes then will be ok. On the other hand theirs owners that are not that open-minded with the situation and don’t think out the box and as long as they get money they are happy and getting people to go to the strip clubs then why change many think. Also that they are two different ones that do it for a cause of preventing something and the other for pleasing the audience. There’s no harm in it.
ReplyDelete1)The article expressed that vegans are people that believe in the method of using nudity as a way to convince people into becoming vegan. An example shown, is the idea in which Johnny Diablo, Owner of Casa Diablo Gentlemen’s Club, Put into place his belief of viganism within is business by soy protein replacing beef in tocos and chimichangas; and the dancers wear pleather, not leather. Tactics like these attract attention, but other vegans believe the attention received may not be the necessary one. Only time will decide on whether this is the right way to express veganism.
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ReplyDelete2- Some people may disagree with the way vegans are using to send their message. They may think is a negatively way to send a message, but I think they are just trying to get the attention. They are not the only ones that use these ways to call attention from people, but at least they are trying to do it for a really good reason, others just do it to sell products. I f they not hurting anyone and they are not passing the limits they should keep doing to save the animals and more those that are in extinction.
ReplyDelete9. I agree with Stephanie, I most definitely don’t think it is wrong to eat meat. Anyone can eat whatever they want and still be slim and healthy. It’s basically just all on the person’s choice of decision.
ReplyDelete3. The impact that has in my personality is that is has a boundless idea. The veganism are just trying to find a way to capture the publics attention but for a great cause. Yes, it was effective because the message that I received from the veganism doesn’t harm one another for the simple fact of trying to save the animal’s life. As long as there is a respect for the women who expose themselves for the cause than I subscribe.
ReplyDelete3- Their message has a big impact in me, because I never thought that these vegetarian organizations would use such tactics to convince people not to eat meet.I really love to eat meet but I also like to respect other people's opinion, in these case vegetarian's opionion but they have to look for other ways to communicate their message.
ReplyDelete8.My response is to Daznaaa. Mr. Diablo’s job is in a very vegan friendly town. It’s a good chance that he was probably trying to appease the public. It would be a shame if everyone hated you so much for something you said that they shun your business. Soon after you would probably end up without a business. That or he probably feels honestly in his mind that his strip club supports vegans and animals with a strip club.
ReplyDelete4.The quote I picked is "certain activists care only about animal suffering and ignore the suffering of humans, a category into which he would put women who are exploited" (Mr. Torres). I agree wit him because it's true. Some vegans will use women as a tool to promote what they want without stopping to think in the women. Yes it's true some of the women will do it because they want too but not all of them. There are many wome out tere that are being sexually exploited being used as a tool. Just like an animal gets hurt and suffers pain, the same way women are suffering pain when they do what they do not because they want too but because they have too.
ReplyDelete4. The qoute that was significant to me was “the people who buy Playboy and Maxim and watch talk shows like Jerry Springer. Those are the peopl we want to edcuate beecause they don’t know anything about the enviorment or animal rights issues or health.” It is true in what the qoute say regarding to how some use women as sex symbol. The ones who do it for no cause at all should be the ones that people can critizes. After all there is no message send to the public, in fact all that is send is for mens and turn them into carnivores and see women as a sex symbol. The difference between the veganism and playboy is playboy is just women exposing men to get money. Therefore, vengansim exposes women to save the animal life and have a knowledge in what they are doing.
ReplyDelete3. I really enjoy reading controversial issues that people try and take a stand on. And I totally am for animal rights, however they took a bad approach at it, sometimes using beautiful ladies isn’t the answer. However, these people really stand up for what they believe. They should just explore better ideas.
ReplyDelete3)So I can say that I knew there were people trying to protect the animals and I’ve seen them in many type of manifestation about how stores that are really expense have animal clothes as their front windows showing off their nice warm jacket or any type of clothing they are trying to sell to the public. So I am not like saying I’m in favor or against it but it hinder my thought about how people buy the most clothes made of animal fur and kill innocent animals that want to live and are killed for money. Well yes because many strip clubs have people with the fur jackets that they take off and only use them for one time and just switch it’s a waste of money and a life of an animal. Why kill for the rich to have and enjoy
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ReplyDelete3- I was surprised of those people who love animals can do for them. It made me wonder if they do it for animals, imagine what they can do for a person. This passage show what some people can do to get to their point and people to understand them. I think this is really amazing, I never heard about it before.
ReplyDelete6.)I did not know that women’s rights and the rights of animals have often been aligned. I did know that women suffered a lot in the previous centuries and animals did to but I never put those two pains together. It’s something that I should definitely look more into.
ReplyDelete7.)The article says that most men have not tried vegetarian food, I don’t understand why not, it might something hard to give up on but why not try to have more conscious of animals that suffer just so that we can eat them.
8.)Daznaaa he is trying to stop animal cruelty, he is not having this women against their will, no one is really being affected only the people that disagree with it, but they shouldn’t care if it’s not affecting them directly.
9.)I disagree with Alejandro and Narine, it might not be on the bible I’m not a huge fan of the bible or anything, but animals die every day so that we can eat them, doesn’t that make you guys feel at least a little bit of guilt, I know it makes me feel guilty, which is why we should try to educate ourselves to eat differently.
1. The message that the vegans are trying to send is that sexism is the same as animal cruelty. What they mean by that is that we shouldn’t use animals for food or clothing or other purpose, so we shouldn’t use females body’s for advertisings. Also that they should care about both animal and human suffering.
ReplyDelete2. I don’t think that it should outweigh the message that these vegans are trying to communicate if anything it should help the message these vegans are trying to get across .so it people disagree with strip clubs/nudity, then they are kind of agreeing with the vegans when it come to the sexism and using females for there body’s
3. There message doesn’t have an impact on my because not everyone can be a vegetarian. I grew up eating meats. I don’t see why they consider eating meat as animal cruelty. What I do consider animal cruelty is hunting animals as a competition and dog fights. So there message has no impact on me, I’m not going to become a vegetarian because someone thinks it’s animal cruelty to eat meats.
5.I agree with the fact that vegans want other people to eat "healthier" but I totally disagree with the way they are trying to use women to promote this. So basically men are giving up animals meat and instead receive womens "meat". There are oter ways to promote what they want. It's true some men will sometimes do anything for sexuality but what vegans don't understand is that they will do it for only that moment. I really doubt they will stop eating meat forever.
ReplyDelete4.The qoute " I think it's important that when reveiwing and analyzing images of woman , we take into account their perspective of what they're trying to say. I think is true most people feel critized right away without trying to look at the whole perspective of a message.
ReplyDelete2)The message in which vegans send through strip clubs/nudity, I believe may out way their true message of what it is to be vegan. Although their main goal may be to educate more of the male population that is into things such as “playboy”, I believe that when a man is watching a naked women the last thing on their mind is “so this is what its like to be a vegan”. A message through nudity and strip clubs, in my belief, just puts a distraction for people, or the male population. Nudity will just bring clients for the strippers, and although veganism may be expressed within the facility, people will still continue their habits of eating as soon as they are back to reality.
ReplyDelete1. Vegans have decided to get their message about animal cruelty heard or even visualized by sex appeal. Their mind set is about the harm towards the animals. Vegans are trying to grab everybody’s attention to avoid using the animals for any cause such as food, clothing, or any purposes. Their focus is to increase the percentage of vegetarian population.
ReplyDelete2. There are certainly people that disagree with using strip club and nudity, but I don’t see it being a problem. With amount of strips clubs in this country, it will be something different if 30% of them are providing healthier food instead of beef and chicken. Maybe it will attract more of the vegetarian crowd to their place. For those vegans that didn’t want to the regular strip club because they feel offended of the environment.
3. I’m honestly not much of a vegetarian fan. I don’t see myself turning into a vegan anytime. Reason is because of the food, don’t you agree? I’m fascinated with pork, beef, chicken and especially seafood that are best.
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ReplyDelete2. Yes, the fact that some people may view strip clubs/nudity negatively outweighed the the message these vegans are trying to communicate. Like Isa Moskowitz, a cookbook authur, says “I’m not keen on the idea of using women’s bodies to sell veganism, and I’m not in to the idea of using veganism to sell woman’s body.” Personally I’m an animal lover..i love animals, but im not vegetarian and yes I think it is cruel what they do to animals and how they use them but I also don’t agree with using women’s bodies to make a point about animal cruelty. Women are human beings, we have feelings and exploiting them in that way is just wrong.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with what A Abreu says about he thinks vegans are using these tactics to call the attention of people but more men’s attention. They are trying to stop animal cruelty by using those tactics. When they used those tactics more people turn vegan so they keep using it because is a way to stop animal cruelty without hurting anybody.
ReplyDelete2-It really does outweigh in a negative way the message that they are trying to communicate, because viewers are concentrating more in how the model looks like and what type of body she has mare then to really understand what the point of this campaigns is. I also disagree with these vegans organizations to use naked women to advertise. It doesn't matter if these models are celebrities or not.
ReplyDelete4-Certain activists care only about "animal suffering and ignore the suffering of humans". This quote means that these activists are too concentrating on trying to convince us not to eat animals, that they forget we need to survive too and for that most of the times we need to eat the meat from these animals. these quote was significant to me, because as I said before I really love my meat and for me to be energetic and to be able to produce as a person I need the nutrients that the meat provides.
ReplyDelete6.I knew that there were people who protested because of animals pain, but I was unfamiliar with the kind of things they were doing to get people to become vegetarians. Also it was the first time I heard about vegan strip clubs. All this was new too me.
ReplyDelete5-I enjoyed reading this article because it was very educative to me. Eventhough I disagree with the vegetarian people for not using the apropiate tactics to communicate their message, I can say that I admire them for being so brave in what they do. I sure that if they change their tactics, they will successfully achieve their goal.
ReplyDelete7.Why use strip clubs/womens bodies to persuade men to eat vegetables?
ReplyDelete6-I was unfamiliar with the fact that these people would do anything to promote or advertise, using from naked models to even open a strip club, just to try to change people's mind. I also think that some of these members are too extremists and even too fanatics, which I think is very wrong.
ReplyDelete7- what can I do to understand this people better?
ReplyDeleteMy answer is to Matenco, I think they use strip clubs/women bodies, because they get to a frustration point and they don't know what else to do to try to convince other people.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kenia when she says"If they don't want people to eat meat, does it justify selling women bodies
ReplyDelete9.Emanuel: I agree with you in your opinion of "we shouldn’t use animals for food or clothing or other purpose, so we shouldn’t use females body’s for advertisings.". I think that if they want to get people to eat vegetables they should use other ways of advertising and not womens bodies. They should think in the method they are using. It's like exchanging animal meat for womens meat, like an advertisement tool.
ReplyDelete8. Answer to Marina: I think it's hard to understand them. I mean we can all unerstand the fact of an animal getting hurt and many of us don't want them to suffer. But using womens as an advertisement tool? Ummm thats not so understandable
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ReplyDelete3-I am not vegetarian but this article has brought my attention to the fact of killing animals to eat their meat. I like vegetables but I still thinking that I should eat meat to keep a balanced diet. I know that vegetables are much healthier than meats but I am beginning to think about all those animals that have to be sacrificed/ killed so we can eat their meat.
ReplyDelete4-The quote that I chose is “a recent protest in London in which a pregnant woman got into a cage in her underwear to draw attention to the treatment of pregnant pigs.” It is significant to me because there still being people who worry about animal’s treatment and that we should be more considered and carefully at the time we deal with animals. I admire this woman because she was trying to draw the attention of everyone to the fact of how a pregnant animal should be treated. She was comparing herself with a pig so everyone could realize that an animal doesn’t have less important than a human being.
ReplyDelete5- I agree with a lot of viewpoints of this article because we eat meat almost every single day but we don’t think how that piece of meat came to be what it is right now, a hamburger, etc. or how many animals are killed daily so we can eat meat any time we want to and some people protesting for animals’ rights. I became aware of this once I was in this country, you can see all this mainly at places where are animals alive and those animals are killed once a customer buy one of these animals to eat it later on, at home. The first place I saw a protest for animals’ rights was in Bergenline ave at 53rd street.
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ReplyDelete6-I was unfamiliar with the fact of “only about 2 percent of the adult population of the United States is vegetarian.” I approached this information a lot because if we go to numbers U.S has a population of almost 308 million of people and only 6 million are vegetarians. Let’s say that 220 million of the remaining 302 million eat meat regularly, only counting adults. There are needed thousands of tons of meats to supply all these people’s meat demands which mean a huge number of animals need to be sacrificed.
ReplyDelete8-My answer to Narine Medford: I think that this PETA organization has adopted these drastic methods as a way to draw everyone’s attention to the fact of saving animals’ life. I don’t think they are comparing animals with sex but what I really believe if that these people would do anything to save and protect any kind of animal.
ReplyDelete2-These vegans are trying to communicate the message of saving animals from cruelty and this means to them doing whatever is at their fingertips. I know that strip clubs/nudity are viewed for some people in a negative way and this could outweigh the message of these people, but sometimes we have to do some noisy action so that others realize what it’s really happening.
ReplyDelete9-I agree in somehow with Alejandro L. because I think there is something called food chain in this world that can’t be broken, some animals eat pasture and others eat them to survive. We, human beings, have developed a system that allows us to eat vegetables (pasture) and meat. I agree to him when he said that eating meat is one thing but cruelty is a different story. Another important fact: if this food chain were broken, can you imagine the animals’ overpopulation? How many species of animals would be lost such as carnivorous animals?
ReplyDelete7-Taken from the article “a recent PETA protest in London in which a pregnant woman got into a cage in her underwear to draw attention to the treatment of pregnant pigs.” And “TWO thing that you find a lot of in Portland, Ore, are vegans and strip clubs. Johnny Diablo decided to open a business to combine both.” Are these groups of people going too far or does the end justify the means? What would you have done if you were a member of any of these organizations in order to get people to pay attention to animal cruelty?
ReplyDelete3)The message brought about vegan-ism through nudity/strip clubs, impacted me in a way that I don't agree with such a method. Food habits is one subject, women being nude another. Although the article mentioned women wearing clothing that represents vegan-ism, males will care about what a female looks like under their clothing more. Their would have been a stronger approach to their goal through methods that differ from the ones chosen.
ReplyDelete4)"Skinny Bitch", a quote that a female may feel happy with hearing. It's meaning being a female who is skinny. A female shall, and maybe, will always criticize their boy for flaws, even if they're already a "skinny bitch". It is significant to the matter of vegan-ism because, at times even healthy people will see such a message as something else they need to correct within themselves.
5)The matter of vegan-ism being combined with nudity, causes me to be against it's idea. Although people may ate vegan food within a gentlemen's, like the stated example at Casa Diablo, they will still continue their old habits. Becoming a vegan has nothing in reference to naked model's, what should be shown are facts and better reasons for why to become a vegan in the first place. Knowing that vegans feel satisfied with what they have accomplished is, something that should shame these women, but they are paid for their actions so why would they oblige and disagree.
6)A female begin's to remove clothing in front of a man, the man welcomes this event by a face of excitement. The idea in which I unfamiliar to me is the vegan clothing in which the man paid no mind to. Humorous I what anyone, as I myself, see such a matter. I'd rather learn about not being a carnivore at a supermarket.
7)If worse comes to worse, and people do not begin to convert to vegan-ism through the nudity approach, what other ways could help open minds?
8)Sex being a topic of importance, people will use something popular to attract attention. Being that the sexual method is aimed mainly at men, specific vegans believe that it will help man understand what life is like without the use of meat as food. Although it may not seem to relate, it is a method that apparently vegans believe works. This a answer to the question presented by Narine Medford.
5. When reading the article I was for it all the time. Like I said before women who are being expose are going with their own will. It’s a way for them to receive audience and making them see what is going around in the animal life. They are helping out in a way to save the animals from any cruelty life behavior. I don’t hinder the text in an objective way because people should first give it a chance than judge at first appearance.
ReplyDelete6. At first when I read the text vegans I thought of a vegetarian and further more when I saw the word strip club was where I got a little bit more confused. Later on I realized that veganism is ways to help people become more involved in what is going out and to help out the animal life. It’s not doing any crime, matter in fact it is a way to help out and become aware. Women are not being exposed because it is their free will to help or not.
ReplyDelete7. To certain people strip clubs is bad way to get people to become vegetarian. What other way can they capture the people's attention to become vegans?
ReplyDelete8. To matenco they use strip clubs/women’s to persuade men to eat vegetable because any beautiful women can capture a men’s eye. If they where to just show a sign of becoming vegetarian no one will actually pay attention. They need to capture people’s attention and in this case sexuality gets through people’s mind.
ReplyDelete9. I agree with what rey said in having to do noisy action for others to realize what is going on. Yes strip clubs are seemed wrong because people picture in their head women dancing around for men. Some strippers are naked others are half naked, but in this case strip clubs is different. Women are not completely naked and certainly not sleeping with men. In other case they are just dancing around and while that is happening they are also mentioning about the animal life. There is a certain respect in the strip club because it is done for a cause. The woman has the choice to dance around as if they were in a club or not. If it wasn’t for at least the name strip club than no one would bother to even take a look inside.
ReplyDelete5. I am against the subject I dont think because you eat meat your creating animal suffering.Animals that we eat are intended to be healthy for us.In the old days we ate meat what makes it different now.Animal cruelty to me is when you kill for the fun of it like the sport hunting.I'm also against the subject because you don't need to use women nudity what so ever to get your point across thats unprofessional.They will still get customers being that it's a stripclub.And at the end when they leave th club most likely their eating habits are going to be the same, seeing nudity to some simply means sex. Something that's not taken serious shouldn't be used as a form to learn something out of it.
ReplyDelete4- “it’s not politically correct to suggest women should be thin, but it is healthier”
ReplyDeleteI think this quote make an interest point for women. It is true that is not politically correct to suggest a women to be thin, but sure it’s healthier for us. You can live the way you want without taking advices from others, but some advices are better for you. It’s true that is healthier to be thin but no too thin just the ideal weight for you. Don’t take some ads like insult for women just take them like advices for us, but if you think you are good like you are, you can stay that way because that’s your option.
5- I agree with some parts of the passage, it’s really nice that some people are trying to help animals. Sometime these people take this to another level like when they get naked in the protest. I know it’s nice to help the animals but why do you have to get naked? I think that’s just a little bit too much. A least these people are trying to do some thing for what they think is not right, and is helping the world too.
ReplyDelete6- I was unfamiliar with the all passage. I knew some people were vegetarian, but I didn’t know about anything else in the passage. It’s nice knowing some people care about animals and they do anything for them. I wish other can fight for what they think is right like these people do for the animals.
ReplyDelete7- will you be a vegan?
ReplyDelete8- Respond to Manteco: I don’t agree with that, but they say that “sexuality is what society will turn it’s head for more than anything else” and sometimes it’s true.
ReplyDelete3. Well personally I am not a vegetarian but I think it is good that some people are trying to save the animals and I LOVE animals and I don’t know maybe it would be good if we can try out what it’s like to be a vegan maybe it would make people feel better about themselves health wise and mentally, but I don’t think they are setting a good example of it. I mean there has to be other better ways to send the message out there and they should look into that.
ReplyDelete4. The quote that caught my attention was “My sole purpose in this universe is to save every possible creature from pain and suffering,” Mr. Diablo said. This quote is significant to me because it reminds me of the times when I was a lot younger I would say things like that all the time to my parents. Like I said I love animals and when I was younger I was very into the subject of doing little protests of trying to diminish animal cruelty, I think about it now and I thought I was so cute back then but the fact of the matter is in reality as much as we try to do so I don’t think we could ever improve that matter in this world..not 100% anyway.
5. I was both for it and against it. For it because I think it’s good that people are trying to do something about animal cruelty and against it because of the way they are demonstrating the matter. I realized this when I came across the text “ Casa Diablo is just the latest example of selling veganism with a “Girls Gone Wild” aesthetic to draw the ire of vegans who complain that such tactics may get people to pay attention to animal cruelty, but for the wrong reasons.”
6. The idea that I was not familiar with was the way Mr. Diablo was trying to use strip clubs to send his message out about animal cruelty. People go to strips clubs for one obvious reason and it’s not to go see what your opinion is about a topic. They’re not going to be concentrating on the ideas or the message Mr. Diablo is trying to communicate but on the nudity of course.
7. Why are they using and such a wrong and explicit tactic in getting a message out to people, when there are so many other positive ways to do so?
ReplyDelete8. In response to Narine Medford’s question: Why would they use something as vulgar as sex to express something as honorable as saving an animal’s life? I agree with you but it seems like Mr. Diablo seems to think since men are very attracted to the idea of sex he thought it may catch their attention faster on what he was communicating to us.
9. I agree with Narine’s statement on how most men have never even tried vegetarian food. Men have the idea in their heads that they must be big and strong as they get older to survive so therefore they wouldn’t want to destroy their image by eating less meat and more veggies.