Wednesday, March 23, 2011

No Dessert for You, Now Go to Your Tower!

No Dessert for You, Now Go to Your Tower!

In considering the above article, please respond to the following for a total of 5 posts, 3 of your own, 2 in response to another student's posts:
  1. Should children have the types of surroundings that the article describes? Make an arguement for or against it and then respond to your fellow students and their opinions about it.
  2. Consider the square footage in the article (if you need to look up the formula to determine square footage, Google it!); How much space is reasonable for a child?  Does ample space  protect a child or isolate them?
  3. Pick out one quote from the text-- either a direct quotation or a selection of text-- and analyze it. Why did it stand out as important to you?
Be scholarly in your approach and provide examples, solid reasoning for your arguement and as always, respectful of your fellow students views. Each post should be a minimum of 4-6 sentences.

57 comments:

  1. Children do not need all thats space. All they need is a caring parent. This space may not be so bad but it will not really help them. If they get used to being alone all the time they will start trying to do things behind parents back like drugs and so on as they get older. They are not going to be childs for ever. This is simply a waste of money and those parent just do not know what else to spend their money on. I think spoiling the child is enough giving him/her their own home basical at the age of 8 or so is too much and they are not even asking for this.

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  2. A kid only needs about 125 square feet. My room isnt even 100 square feet and im not complaining. Maybe it is becuase we are used to it. Yeah a huge room would be nice but i do not need it. 125 Saqure feet is more then enough to fit a bed a nice desk, dresser and the T.V can be mounted on the wall. These parents are going overboard and are spoiling their kids more then they need to be. They arent going to learn anything and grow up thinking that everything is going to be given to them. Keeping a child in a nice medium size room in the house is fine all this extra space is unessesary and will allow for more timewith the parents instead of feeling excluded from the house.

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  3. 1. Children should have the types of surroundings the article describe. First they will have private and quality time for themselves . Second As we know they grow up to fast and soon be getting an education forthemselves, This is a good idea so they will maintain good study habits . And last with there own room zone area this will bring the family close because your children won’t feel the need to go elsewhere, due to having everything they need. As the economy changes children and parents seem to be spending less quality time with their children, children’s having the types of surroundings the article describes family bonds will start to grow

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  4. 1.)Children should defently have some luxury. Like Dr. Eileen Gallo “it’s up to the parents to set the tone’’. If the parents control the situtation the children should have enough communication with their parents. However, it all depends on the parents, because kids want a lot of things but the parent is who decides if they get it or not, and if they do get it, with what rules.

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  5. Nowadays with the increase of technological devices and the fast paced living society about everything needs some type of improvement. So kids won’t be satisfied with a simple bunk bed and cluttered toys and books all over the floor. Granted that kids shouldn’t be the ones calling the shots and if you can’t afford it then, you simply cannot afford it, but if you can then why not? It helps the kids keep up with the fast paced world, and if they have an awesome room to go back home to they’re going to want to stay there and bring their friends there, which would keep them out of trouble and help the parents keep a better eye on them.

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  6. 1.I believe young children, around the ages of 8 shouldn’t have such a big space to themselves. This is because children of that age couldn’t honestly know what to do with all of that extra room. In fact kids around that age don’t honestly know what they truly want. When I was 8 I would play my Nintendo and not worry about anything else, like the size of my room or house, because I was simple and didn’t need much for entertainment, like I believe most kids my age were. Children shouldn’t be able to have their fantasy room either, because than it leaves nothing to their imagination, probably killing their creativity.

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  7. 2.I believe, space wise, that all the room a child needs is enough for their toys, television, clothing, bed, and some moving space. The type of space the children in the article were getting is beyond ridiculous. I would believe that that much space is unhealthy for a child. This is because the child wouldn’t honestly know how what to do with all that extra room. Also I know how I was when I was a child, and if I had that much room I wouldn’t ever want to leave it, and if I was forced to, then I would be very unhappy. So the children in the article must feel the same way which is probably bad for their education.

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  8. 1. I think children deserve to be spoiled, but not to the point that when they get older the majority of the time children will turn out to become spoiled brats! Yes a child should be able to have his or her space as well as grownups do, but I don’t think that they need a luxury. All a young child basically needs is a roof over its head, cloths and food. Are parents just using the excuse of [space needed for their children] or for popularity?

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  9. 3.“Will it be used as a way to avoid the family connection or will the child simply have very comfortable quarters?” I believe this is important because most people would like to know how their child would react in such a situation. It shows that there is indeed a risk to offering a child such a spacious room. In my opinion I think it is indeed a way to avoid the family. This is because if a child has all their “needs” in their room, than they won’t really want to interact with anyone, because they don’t have to. In my opinion I believe this would be the more common outcome of the two choices.

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  10. 1-I don't think is good idea to give so much to a child, because at that age they don't really appreciate the value of it. I also believe that if parents give too much to a child are creating a situation in which the chid become too spoiled and having toughts of superiorty.

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  11. Response 1: I agree with Alejandro; children don’t need all that space. By having a child isolated from everything that is going on isn’t so much protecting your child, but keeping them on lock down! Yes, no where around this world is safe, but as I tell my parents we all need to go through the process of experiencing life and making mistakes and learning from them. And it also is a waste of money!

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  12. 1. As factual as the article, No Dessert for You! Now Go to Your Tower, may sound; it appears to be exaggerated 100%. The author illustrates mansion size rooms with anything you can imagine for instance, a convertible sofa, computer, a television, a DVD player etc. As a kid your happy to have all that and also should feel priveledged because not everyone is lucky enough. I feel that if parents can spoil their kids there is no problem with that. The happiness felt by the offspring is the same happiness the parent will feel.

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  13. 2.Considering the square footage of these suites is extremely a bit too much. Having a hug space like that is basically a five year old having his or her own apartment. This space definitely seems to me to be isolation to a child. Although they may have everything they want and “need”, children want and need freedom to see what is out there for them. Most of the time, children go crazy and rebellious feeling isolated and basically locked in a chamber.

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  14. Alejandro L. makes a good point by saying all kids really need is caring parents. But on the other hand if parents could afford to spend the money it takes to give their child a nice room and make that child happy then why not? I mean I understand spoiling a kid to a certain extent could have negative side effects but giving the child a nice room isn’t really that bad. And since the kid will love his or her new room, then most likely they will not want to leave this room and go do drugs behind the parents back.

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  15. I believe that children can have all the accommodations that the article describes but at a certain age, definitely not when they are little. The more privacy you give them when little, the more they will ask as they grow up. An eight year old doesn’t need all the space that the article is describing. At that age most of the children still want to go out to the park and spend time with the family or friends playing. If they get all that space what will happen is that they will stay inside four walls and sooner or later they will get bored. If the parents want and can give their teens some luxury it’s ok. But at an older age like at 15 not too young. Like Dr. Eileen said “it all depends upon how the parents handle the suite.”

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  16. 4. In response to Alejandro L.: I agree with the fact that children do not need such an excessive amount of room. I also believe that what Alejandro states is true, that children really only need a dresser, a bed, and a television. They really do not need more than 100 square feet. Such a big amount of space cant even be properly used by a child. If the space was less it would make interaction with parents greater.

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  17. 1.Well when you start talking money and luxury that you get when you’re just a little kid what big affect it has toward your life cause it’s like having all at the palm of your hand and think it is all right and think that all your life is to have the best accommodations. I don’t think its much help for them as they grow up sooner or later they have to see life is not as it seems or was painted to them. It’s wrong when parents treat them with luxury they get so selfish and want everything. They become dependent on the parents instead of independent. Also that I think parents concentrate to much in giving them not caring for them and paint the children the stars and sky when life know is like either you go out and do it or stay and get noting. I am against giving it all when their kids what example is it life is not like something you learn in a day its hard work which takes years to build. What are kids to say they can’t even talk. What good is it?

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  18. PLEASE REMEMBER THERE IS A LENGTH MINIMUM FOR YOUR POSTS. THIS IS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A MORE FULLY THOUGHT-OUT RESPONSE TO POST A PARAGRAPH THAN TWO SENTENCES.

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  19. 2.)I believe a kid needs the amount of space the parent can provide them with. However, maybe 100 square feet would be a reasonable size for a kid from my point of view. Therefore, I dissagree with Alejandro, for the reason being that everyone needs their space and some need more then others. Like I said before it also depends on how much a parent can spen on thei child.

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  20. 1.I won’t be concern about giving my children their own space, especially if I am the one paying for it and designing the area. Children need space away from their parent’s teenagers especially .I would want to surround them with what they like and for them to be safe and happy. This article explains how the parents pay and decide what’s going to be in the room for their young children ,so why would there be any concern of their safety .I agree with this article because the parents wants what are best for their children they wouldn’t want anything inappropriate in their surroundings.

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  21. 3.)“Will it be used as a way to avoid the family connection or will the child simple have very comfertable quarters?” this quote stood out for me because it’s a question that I would like to intent to answer. From my prospective, it’ll be used just for comfert reasons. If a parent teaches and proves to a child that family communication is important the child should see the comfertable room as a privlage and not as a right. However, if the child is a teen they will want to get away from their parents reguardless if they have a small room or a luxurious space.

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  22. Response 2: I have to disagree with a Stephanie for this one. I really don’t think having all this space for a child is going to maintain their study habits and keep them to better relationship with their family. Closer yes, since the child will be stuck home all. At first a child may LOVE all the space and being spoiled, but then again children want and need the freedom as well. And as with the economy, I think by owning these house’s can also be the problem why the economy is also so bad.

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  23. 2.As a matter of fact, I don’t think that there is a space to large for a child. We all have our own taste and preferences and a child especially a young one would find a big space adventurous because they could use their imagination more often and arrange the room however they want. In my opinion having a larger space means for freedom, more space to do different things. Children could have more friends over also. The room would be like a palace that little kids are always reading about in fairytales.

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  24. I think that a child’s bedroom should be able to fit just the necessary. Sooner or later too much space will isolate them from the outside and from their family. It’s not good to have them too cluttered because some might feel trapped in a small room and might want to go to others house but too much space will only spoil them too much. If they want a big room with all the luxury they should be able to earn it and know how to take care of it.

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  25. 3.The quote that stood out to me the most was Dr. Eileen Gallo said “it’s up to the parent’s to set the tone”. No matter how big or small the room might be if the child has a privilege to have their own room it must be because the parents trust their children and want to show them at a young age what responsibility is. They are giving their child this space so that they could be safe and spend more time at home rather than out in the streets. Parents have the option to show their children what the true meaning of this is and to see if the children gains trust and comfort towards their parents or just isolates them self away .

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  26. 5. In response to Stephanie: I disagree with what she is stating. Being secluded from everyone in a big room won't bring up good study habits. Especially if you have all your entertainment needs, and a game room. I also believe having that space to yourself will not bring your family closer together but seperate them more, because you are not around. Even though you are stating they will not leave their house as frequently, you should also realise they wont leave their room, secluding themselves from their family.

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  27. Response_ I Agree with Marina.With all this freedom and everything given to them children will just be spoiled. They will get a sense that everything will be given to them and wouldnt want to expierience life for what it realy is. They are going to be living in this fantacy world that mommy and daddy will give them everything they need for as long as they need it. They will also as she said think they are supirior. Whatever they ask for they will son know they can have puting ressure o the parent to do as the kid says when it should realy be the other way around.

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  28. In the articles the room’s chosen are obviously extraordinarily big in size. It's also obvious a child doesn’t need all that space. All they really need is enough area to do school work, sleep, play with toys or watch tv. I don't think that takes 4,000sq ft., maybe not even half of that. Perhaps, half of the half or even less.

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  29. I Agree with Nathalie M., that it all depends on the parents, whether or not the kid comes out “spoiled” or “bratty” and it is up to the parents to determine the difference between children’s “needs” and “wants”. Granted a child doesn’t “need” luxury bedroom but if you’re able to give your child it, then there really isn’t harm in that. It’s a bedroom, it’s not like your spoiling your child because you can afford to buy a 5,000 square foot house and you can afford to give your child a nice bedroom.

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  30. 1. I believe it is not good for these children to have these types of surroundings because although it teaches them how to be more independent it also teaches them to be alone. It’s true that the only person you can truly depend on is yourself but that is something you learn within years, not at the age of 8. Some of these children are too young to be having so much space that allows them a lot of freedom. Parents might think it is a productive method to use on their children, but there is no knowing in what will happen. These children may begin to feel that they do not need their parents because they have been taught to be independent and in addition their parents basically isolated them.

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  31. 2.A 12-by-14 foot room is reasonable enough for a child, but that’s just what I believe. It is good for a child to have their privacy, but not too much and under their parents roof. Ample space can go either way. Parents might give their children their own space to protect the children; however they need to also consider that their children may at one point begin to feel isolated. Although the parents do it with good intentions, it does not guarantee that the child will not feel isolated.

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  32. 3.“The last thing we need is to put more distance between parents and their children,” said Dr. Alan Kazdin, director of the Child Study Center at Yale University, when asked about the trend. This stood out to me because what Dr. Kazdin is saying is true. There is separation enough between parents and their children and now the parents are adding even more to it. Although everything will begin to go smooth, sooner or later the children will become rebellious because they have been given much freedom and have become independent because of the isolation their parents gave them.

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  33. “The last thing we need is to put more distance between parents and their children”, said Dr. Alan Kazdin. I agree because just around my neighborhood I see how little kids don’t want to go out with their families anymore. These kids just rather stay home and play video games. Just imagine if they had more room and more games to play with. There is a limit of how much you spoil your kid. If you give them al you think is best for them as they grow up they will be dependent on you and always be asking more and more. They have to learn how to work for what they want and not just say “mommy daddy I want this…”

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  34. 4. I have to say I totally disagree with Alejandro l .I feel like children will feel that much more comfortable with their parents knowing that they provided them with this room as a form of trust. Therefore the child will give back the same respect and honestly as their parent. By having their own space I feel like the child will have more time to explore their feelings and gain more love for his parents. Everyone needs space more often and bigger than one might think.

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  35. 1) Children living in the present times have become more distant from their families because of the much given space that is allowed by the parents. As shown within the article, giving a child their own santuary lets them believe at a young age that they are as open and free to do as they please. Reason for this is due to the the big tremendous amount of privacy being offered by the parents. Although it may begin to show and influenece the child about responsibilities, I raise the question of, “what age is it right for children to be given a good amount of privacy?”
    2) The amount of space that is reasonable for a child, depends in the form in which the child conducts themselves. A child that is not ready for big responsibilities of a room should, be taught to manage something ample because a parent will be able to determine the progression of the childs way of dealing with something suttle instead of overwhelming. An ample room for a child is something that can be supervised and as well allow them to do what children do best, have fun. Isolating of the child would occur within an ample room only, if the parent is strict of how the child may enjoy themselves or whether friends are allowed to have influence over the child.
    3) The amount of space that is reasonable for a child, depends in the form in which the child conducts themselves. A child that is not ready for big responsibilities of a room should, be taught to manage something ample because a parent will be able to determine the progression of the childs way of dealing with something suttle instead of overwhelming. An ample room for a child is something that can be supervised and as well allow them to do what children do best, have fun. Isolating of the child would occur within an ample room only, if the parent is strict of how the child may enjoy themselves or whether friends are allowed to have influence over the child.

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  36. 1. Of course, any child would be more than happy to have their own spacious home based environment. I know if my parents had money like that and they gave me my own suit to live in I would’ve been the happiest girl because I will be having more privacy time and I wouldn’t have to worry about my parents hovering over me about everything I’m doing. However, generally speaking I don’t think it is a very good idea. Giving a child a lot of space like that would make them feel that they would need to start being independent at an early age. Not that independence isn’t a good thing, but it should come along in a more appropriate time, when the child is more matured and can handle making their own decisions. Giving young children the opportunity have too much privacy, only triggers their mind into thinking that it is ok to do whatever they please and that can lead to serious matters. For example, those kids who have more independence are more likely to end up doing drugs and having sex and all the bad social influences that society brings among our children. Children need to be by their parents’ side and learn right from wrong and have the support and good communication of their parents.

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  37. 2-I believe giving a child a big bedroom is not going to create a close relationship with their parents. I some cases is the other way around because having a huge room makes the child to be more interested in what he/she has in the room then to spend time with their parents. The room should be enough for a child to be able to have his space, have his toys and have a nice and comfortable invironment.

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  38. 3.“The children, Ms. Friedman figures, “work better with the other children around and are less likely to visit inappropriate web sites.”
    This quote pretty much lost me. I disagree with Ms. Friedman! It stuck out to me because of the fact that, giving a child all the space in the world doesn’t stop a child from being curious. If the child is locked in his/her house and room, what makes parents think they are not going to get bored after a while and find something new to do. The only thing that may stop a child from entering inappropriate web sites is by blocking them out of them, not a huge kingdom!

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  39. I agree with Alejandro. Children do not need so much space. They should be thankful with the space that they already have and should not ask for more. Too much space is not healthy because it builds a wall between parents and thier children. Isolation begins to grow on the children and then there will be nothing the parents can do about it because they were the reason for their children changing.

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  40. I agree with Alejandro L. After the years these little kids will grow and will become adults, all the room you did will be a waste of money. Yes, like also the article says in the future it can become an office, but these parents need to teach their kids how to become independent and not always rely on what their parents give them. Ok they have money and they want to spend it on their kids but instead of spoiling them with luxurious rooms they can save that money for an emergency or for their education which would be much more valuable. Like you said Alejandro an eight year doesn’t ask for this what they want is too probably spend time with their family.

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  41. "Why shouldn't our children have as beautiful a space for themselves as we do?"

    This stood out to me cause that is basically how parents think i would say. If you live in a castle your going to have a nice big royal room like your mom! If you live in the projects your gonna have a nice little tight bedroom like your parents!

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  42. 5. I would have to disagree with Jovani, in regards to the children having everything in the palm of their hands feel like the child will try to succeed that much more because of what he was given as a child. He would want the same for his children and that much more. Nothing comes easy and everything is hard work .If I was given this as a child it would just make me realize how good my life is and encourage me to try even harder and think wiser to make good decisions that would benefit me and my family in the future.The space provided for me will give me a clear idea of what i want in life .

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  43. 4.) I dissagree with Marina, children wouldn't be spoiled with luxury, not if parent teachs them that they need to work hard in order to obtain such a room, as little kids they can start picking up their toys and get rewarded with something. It depends on how the parent gives the luxury to the child. I believe there must be a way to have your child happy and educated at the same time. Of course before the comfert and luxury comes responsibility.

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  44. 1-Children should have some of the surroundings described in this article but everything has to have limits. A child that is getting good grades in school should get some material rewards for it but you can’t give everything to this kid because he or she will be motivated only on what it’s getting from its actions. Parents should provide their children with space for their own so these kids can know what independence fells and looks like and these kids won’t have problems when the moment to become independent comes. Providing to a child with too much space for its own could have bad consequences for him or her. Many families are isolated because there is not too much time to share and distant zones even inside their home.

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  45. A reasonable size for a children’s bedroom all depends on the size of the house, the bigger the house the more reasonable it is to have a larger set children’s room. But I believe that an about 120 square foot room is decent enough for the kid to have his toys, TV, video game, and all that stuff and be satisfied with it. Ample space would probably isolate the child from street related stuff, because of the fact that the kid would want to be inside all the time, but all the kids friends would be at the house, which would be easier for the parents to keep an eye on them, as well as have them be sufficiently entertained. Also for meal times they would gather in dining room and converse.

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  46. These types of rooms are mostly offered at upscale homes and towns, just like the spacious Spanish-style house in Saddle River, NJ. If the parent’s income is more than $100K and decide to buy a beautiful spacious house for the family, providing luxury to the children shouldn’t be a problem. The buyers of these houses that cost $600,000 to $2 million are mainly wealthy people. Anybody with such money would provide their children with a spacious room decked out with the kid’s favorite theme. Wouldn’t you? Some of these parents spending enormous amount of money on their kid’s room don’t bother them. The parent’s main concern is making them happy and providing their children with a place where they can be a kid.
    Is there a reasonable space for a child when it comes to providing them with a room? Maybe till the child is 3 years old but in general I don’t think so. Kids would love any bedroom whether if it’s big or small as long some privacy given. They just want a room where they can play games in, bring their friends, have sleepovers, and decorate it in their own way. It’s also about the parent’s budget too; if they have the money they will have a higher chance of providing their children with the spacious room. Such space won’t isolate the children because there will be enough space to do all kinds of activity.

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  47. with the types of surroundings the article describes i think 1,500 square feet is reasonable for the child.This can cover at least three different areas for them.There bed room,a study area,and an activity room where they can later change to there own gym, or to whatever activity there really into.If you have the money why not make your child happy. Your child is not always going to be a child, They will grow and need there own privacy.also of 190 students About one-quarter of the students in any given year move out of their homes and drop out. said Douglas Watson, the school's executive director.Having a surrounding like the article describes will prevent this from happening. They will leave their homes the right way by earning an education first.

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  48. 4) I agree with guiselle upon the matter that their is to much distance between parents and their children. Children once cared to be apart of the family and make proud their parents for the decisions in which they have made. Presently, a child will rather sneek out of the house or enjoy the presents of partys with friends than home with family who may understand them more than any person. Reason for why a child may only come to the parent when they have already suffered certain consequences.

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  49. 2-A reasonable space for a child should be based on any child’s needs and his or her parents’ affordability. I don’t think a child needs a bedroom that has the sizes of a huge apartment. Many parents try to protect their children providing them with ample spaces, making their personal suite so confortable that these children don’t want to go outside to play with other kids. It doesn’t protect these children; instead it makes them more dependable and can cause deceases such as obesity because of lack of exercise. These big confortable suites isolate children from their parents because the short times they have to spend together, these kids prefer to stay in the comfort of their bedroom rather than be with their parents.

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  50. 3-I chose the fallowing quote: “studies indicate that parents and children are spending more time apart, some say that placing children in distant zones within the home serves further isolate families already fragmented by the demands of contemporary life.” This quote was important to me because it’s happening in many families here in U.S.A. We are living in a country where life doesn’t stop for nothing or anyone. Many people don’t have too much time to spend with their family because of work but when they have time to spend, mainly with their kids, these children prefer to stay in their room which has all what they need, except physical love from their parents.

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  51. 4-I agree with Marina Amaya because I don’t think that parents could have a close relationship with their kids because they give these children all what they want. It might seem that a child has a strong relationship with his or her parents but maybe this kid may have found an easy way to get all what he or she wants.

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  52. 5-I agree with Guiselle because I don’t believe neither that an eight years old kid should have all those types of surroundings such as computer, private phone line in his or her own life. What will a child do on the Internet? Getting a job! Checking his/her emails! An eight years old kid surfing online without and adult supervision, no way. I know all this could make a kid dependent but you don’t want an eight years old kid already become independent

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  53. 1- A child does not need a personal suite. What they need is love and a parent that takes care of them. When a parent gives a child a huge space, they don' know what to do with all that space. Some of these children feel lonely because their parents have gave them a big room and they also think that no one cares about them. These children become alcoholic and addicted to drugs because they don't have anyone to take care of them.

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  54. "The last thing we need is to put more distance between parents and their children," said Dr. Alan Kazdin.
    These quotation means that by the parents worry about giving their children a huge bedroom, they are putting a distance between them and their children because the child has so much room and things to do that they don't spend time with each other and the relationship turns to be with no communication. We as parents are supposed to be our children best friends in order to guide them for the good way and create of them the best as human for the future. With that said I personally disagree to give a child a bedroom too big and full of accesories that they don't really need what they need is for us to be more close to them and involved in everything that they do in a daily basis.

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  55. 1-I don't think is good idea to give so much to a child, because at that age they don't really appreciate the value of it. I also believe that if parents give too much to a child they are creating a situation in which the child becomes too spoiled and having thoughts of superiority. I really think that a child who has all of these luxury things becomes to be separated from a good and healthy relationship with his/her parents since they spend more time by them self then to be with their parents.

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  56. I agree with Alejandro L. when he said that a child doesn't need all of that space, and that all they need is caring parents. Also if they get used to be alone they will probably do things behind their parents back for example the use of drugs. He also said that this is only a waste of money and that parents should't give all of these things to a child that is not even asking for.

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  57. I disagree with Natali Moran, when she said that children need space away from their parents because I am a mother and I don't think a child specially is they're not old enough to make any dessition should be away from their parents. She also mentioned that is ok by parents giving their children all of the accomodations because they know what is best for their children and I don't agree with her since to wish and want the best for a child is not giving them things that they don't need stead is to provide what they need and probably a little extra if they earn it.

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